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Can Jan win the Tour or not? |
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Richard World Champ
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: Can Jan win the Tour or not? |
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Ok, based on the fact that Jan has finally had one good day so far this year, do you think that's enough for you lot to get your knickers wet about him winning the Tour? _________________ The internet is possibly the greatest bitch fest on earth. Expect anything than relentless ridicule for no good reason and your expectations are set way too high |
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Richard World Champ
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: |
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bad luck it;'s currently 5 to 1 and I'm the one who put the 'no' answer in ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ The internet is possibly the greatest bitch fest on earth. Expect anything than relentless ridicule for no good reason and your expectations are set way too high |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure it'll change if he finishes in the laughing group everyday in the mountains next week. _________________ Going out the back in style since 2002. |
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mattr World Champ
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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the jan will be crushing the mountains of the wine drinking cheese eaters between his massive thighs, this will make every day that the jan is riding a long flat 200km trial of the time...... |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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mattr wrote: |
the jan will be crushing the mountains of the wine drinking cheese eaters between his massive thighs, this will make every day that the jan is riding a long flat 200km trial of the time...... |
How dare you
Its cheese eating surrender monkeys |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: |
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mmmm, a flat time trial a tour win does not make.
I'd like to say yes, but I think no,
I don't think Basso will either. |
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mattr World Champ
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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NS wrote: |
mattr wrote: |
the jan will be crushing the mountains of the wine drinking cheese eaters between his massive thighs, this will make every day that the jan is riding a long flat 200km trial of the time...... |
How dare you
Its cheese eating surrender monkeys |
I was trying to steer away from that particular phrase, you should have seen the first version i wrote........ |
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Richard World Champ
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Dan Souf wrote: |
mmmm, a flat time trial a tour win does not make.
I'd like to say yes, but I think no,
I don't think Basso will either. |
thank god, someone else who's not wetting their knickers because Ullrich actuall (shock horror) won a bike race.
er it's what he's paid (handsomely) to do innit? _________________ The internet is possibly the greatest bitch fest on earth. Expect anything than relentless ridicule for no good reason and your expectations are set way too high |
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Lee World Champ
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:05 am Post subject: |
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We all know he can win the Tour, surely the question should be will he? _________________
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But, on reflection, you're probably right... |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I don't think he can... I too think he is too heavy and the fact that he won yesterday is an indication that with the extra weight has come increased power... but not to weight....
If that makes sense...
So he may shine in the TT's on the flat - but other than that...
Would love to be wrong though. A win in L'Tour for Jan would justify T Mobiles belief in him.... _________________ Imagination is the war against reality.... |
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hed World Champ
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: |
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i think he may, but as much depends on how many bad days his rivals have (basso, landis, vino etc) as how good he does. this has never really been the case with lance as he always (99% of the time anyway) managed to out perform his opponents whther they were having a good or bad day.
i would like him to win it again as i like the guy and he is a born trier. _________________ Team VeloRiders- like Rock Racing, only far more perverted. |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I reckon Basso is going to blow his t*ts off making sure he wins the Giro "for his mother". He'll pay for it at the Tour. I reckon Jan has got his timing right this year. I vote yes but I think Landis, Valverde and perhaps Popovych may push him close. |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: |
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can jan win the tour? he can win it and could have won it more in the past 9 years. whether he will or not is a different matter _________________ Real men don't spin
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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No! Valverde is going to beat Basso and Ullrich. Basso will sit on his wheel in the mountains as he won't be able to accelerate away from him aka the Rominger-Indurain years. Ullrich will get dropped on the last climb of every mountain stage. |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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snakeeater wrote: |
No! Valverde is going to beat Basso and Ullrich. Basso will sit on his wheel in the mountains as he won't be able to accelerate away from him aka the Rominger-Indurain years. Ullrich will get dropped on the last climb of every mountain stage. |
valverde will perfrom like Di Luca/Simoni/cunego in the TT, i.e lose ~ 3-4 mins each time. he'd have to be the greatest climber in the world to take 8 mins out of Landis/Jan/Basso in the relatively easy mountains this year
not gonna happen
this year's TDF has 100KM of TTs (like the one in the Giro yesterday). It's a big motor course. end-of _________________ Straight Outta Compton |
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly no.
And I'm a huge Jan fan, and have
suffered through dull Lance/Discovery/ Us Postal tours.
I saw a pic recently of Jan being paced by his then
team-mate Udo Bolts in the 97 tour. The diffference
in the size of this guy to now is incredible, especially
in the upper arms, calves, etc. In that tour his power
to weight ratio must have been mighty impressive, but
he's just maybe too big to make the difference now,
or stay with accellerations when it's getting above 10% |
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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NS wrote: |
I reckon Basso is going to blow his t*ts off making sure he wins the Giro "for his mother". He'll pay for it at the Tour. I reckon Jan has got his timing right this year. I vote yes but I think Landis, Valverde and perhaps Popovych may push him close. |
I agree with you about Basso , Vino could win it. I can`t see Valverde getting anywhere near winning , he`s never finished a Tour , and I`m not sure he can handle 7 hour mountain stages , top 15 maybe.
I suppose there`s a chance Hincapie can win it , I think Kashechkin could get on the podium if Vino has a complete collapse. |
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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The first big mountain stage will be exhilirating.. so many contenders are going to be in with a shout this year. Can't wait
But I seriously think Ullrich will produce a ride akin to classic Indurain. I think the question on everyone's lips after Le Tour will be "what if he rode the Giro every year for training when Armstrong was winning?"
Seriously, I am going to put money on the big man cos I think he's going to blow the race apart. Victory by 6 minutes!
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