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Cary de Weigh
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| I haven't used this in recent years, but am wondering whether I should buy some for early season races. |
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jay cee
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mho
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Invariably I found if I used lots of the hot stuff I didn't ride well. So now would rather ride in knee or leg warmers if you need embrocation.
I just use a dab on the achilles or behind the knee if I use some. |
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Festina_Lente
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I love the burnie sensation. The creams with oil in do work for keeping warm in the wet as the oil is hydrophobic, thus minimising heat loss through latent heat of evaporation.
Better than leg wamers you have to take of mid race, or go along sodden and cold. |
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harry g flatters
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tried it once. Didn't warm me at all until i'd finished and was driving home when it felt like my legs were on fire.
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Steve McGinty
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It's just an irritant - you'd be as well rubbing your legs with stinging nettles. Utterly useless - one of the myths of cycling.
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mho
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| It's just an irritant - you'd be as well rubbing your legs with stinging nettles. Utterly useless - one of the myths of cycling. |
agreed read Graeme Obree's book and see what he says and then remind yourself he is an original thinker. |
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Canonised
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[quote="sixtususa.com]Benefits:
# Promotes blood flow to the skin |
Blood flow to the skin might make you feel warmer, but you really want increased blood flow to the muscle. Which is exactly what happens when you start racing - and why you only feel the benefit of the embrocation when you're stood on the start line/sat in the car on the way home. |
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flash!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mho wrote: |
[quote="sixtususa.com]Benefits:
# Promotes blood flow to the skin |
Blood flow to the skin might make you feel warmer, but you really want increased blood flow to the muscle. Which is exactly what happens when you start racing - and why you only feel the benefit of the embrocation when you're stood on the start line/sat in the car on the way home. |
Yeah but if you rub it in properly the rubbing promotes the blood flow to the muscles as well. Best use for stopping the rain touching the skin which is enough benefit for me to use it, I use it for rowing too for when you get splashed.
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Adam
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Hector Rymen
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| mho wrote: |
[quote="sixtususa.com]Benefits:
# Promotes blood flow to the skin |
Blood flow to the skin might make you feel warmer, but you really want increased blood flow to the muscle. Which is exactly what happens when you start racing - and why you only feel the benefit of the embrocation when you're stood on the start line/sat in the car on the way home. |
Yeah but if you rub it in properly the rubbing promotes the blood flow to the muscles as well. Best use for stopping the rain touching the skin which is enough benefit for me to use it, I use it for rowing too for when you get splashed. |
if you've done *any* survival training, you'll soon learn that rubbing parts to 'warm' them is utterly pointless and doesn't work.
If you want to warm your muscles, do a warm up.
oils, rubbing, DELETED, etc ain't gonna make a blind bit of difference
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Patrick
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| We just used to use Baby Oil to make our legs look shiny. |
Or as a certain rider I know....fake tan and then baby oil  |
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david123
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Its great if you like roasted nutz.
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John McC
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Never used the stuff.
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Whippet
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| doesn't it contain pepper? one of the ingredients is 'pepper' in latin iirc. it's only purpose is to mask (or just add to) the smell of pooh that you get in village halls on a sunday morning. |
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TREK
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All of these comments and no one has mentioned Harold Nelson
Harold and embrocation go hand in hand, no pun intended. 
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TBK
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All of these comments and no one has mentioned Harold Nelson
Harold and embrocation go hand in hand, no pun intended. |
H and baby oil 
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