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Is warm-up oil:
really effective?
24%
 24%  [ 14 ]
probably not effective, but an important pre-race ritual?
43%
 43%  [ 25 ]
a waste of money?
32%
 32%  [ 19 ]
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Cary de Weigh
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Embrocation Reply with quote

I haven't used this in recent years, but am wondering whether I should buy some for early season races.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sixtususa.com/product_info.php/cPath/9/products_id/156
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invariably I found if I used lots of the hot stuff I didn't ride well. So now would rather ride in knee or leg warmers if you need embrocation.

I just use a dab on the achilles or behind the knee if I use some.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the burnie sensation. The creams with oil in do work for keeping warm in the wet as the oil is hydrophobic, thus minimising heat loss through latent heat of evaporation.

Better than leg wamers you have to take of mid race, or go along sodden and cold.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tried it once. Didn't warm me at all until i'd finished and was driving home when it felt like my legs were on fire.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just an irritant - you'd be as well rubbing your legs with stinging nettles. Utterly useless - one of the myths of cycling.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve McGinty wrote:
It's just an irritant - you'd be as well rubbing your legs with stinging nettles. Utterly useless - one of the myths of cycling.
agreed read Graeme Obree's book and see what he says and then remind yourself he is an original thinker.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mho wrote:
[quote="sixtususa.com]Benefits:
# Promotes blood flow to the skin


Blood flow to the skin might make you feel warmer, but you really want increased blood flow to the muscle. Which is exactly what happens when you start racing - and why you only feel the benefit of the embrocation when you're stood on the start line/sat in the car on the way home.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canonised wrote:
mho wrote:
[quote="sixtususa.com]Benefits:
# Promotes blood flow to the skin


Blood flow to the skin might make you feel warmer, but you really want increased blood flow to the muscle. Which is exactly what happens when you start racing - and why you only feel the benefit of the embrocation when you're stood on the start line/sat in the car on the way home.


Yeah but if you rub it in properly the rubbing promotes the blood flow to the muscles as well. Best use for stopping the rain touching the skin which is enough benefit for me to use it, I use it for rowing too for when you get splashed.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just used to use Baby Oil to make our legs look shiny.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flash! wrote:
Canonised wrote:
mho wrote:
[quote="sixtususa.com]Benefits:
# Promotes blood flow to the skin


Blood flow to the skin might make you feel warmer, but you really want increased blood flow to the muscle. Which is exactly what happens when you start racing - and why you only feel the benefit of the embrocation when you're stood on the start line/sat in the car on the way home.


Yeah but if you rub it in properly the rubbing promotes the blood flow to the muscles as well. Best use for stopping the rain touching the skin which is enough benefit for me to use it, I use it for rowing too for when you get splashed.



if you've done *any* survival training, you'll soon learn that rubbing parts to 'warm' them is utterly pointless and doesn't work.

If you want to warm your muscles, do a warm up.

oils, rubbing, DELETED, etc ain't gonna make a blind bit of difference
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam wrote:
We just used to use Baby Oil to make our legs look shiny.


Or as a certain rider I know....fake tan and then baby oil Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its great if you like roasted nutz.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never used the stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doesn't it contain pepper? one of the ingredients is 'pepper' in latin iirc. it's only purpose is to mask (or just add to) the smell of pooh that you get in village halls on a sunday morning.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of these comments and no one has mentioned Harold Nelson

Harold and embrocation go hand in hand, no pun intended. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TREK wrote:
All of these comments and no one has mentioned Harold Nelson

Harold and embrocation go hand in hand, no pun intended. Laughing


H and baby oil Wink
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